Old 07-13-2013, 11:22 AM   #1
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Default SSR Maps of the Battle of the Scheldt

Hi,

I'm looking for copies of the South Saskatchewan Regiment's war maps pertaining to the Battle of the Scheldt, particularly those that include the areas of Antwerp (including Brasschaat), Brecht and Heist-op-den-Berg.

Just to clarify, it is the maps of this area that are relevant to the SSR's war diaries that I am looking for. I have a number of coordinates that I found in the diaries that I need to plot.

I am also wondering if anyone knows of any first-hand accounts written by a member of the SSR who participated in this battle.

Thank you.

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Old 07-13-2013, 02:15 PM   #3
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Lots of maps of this battle

https://www.google.ca/search?q=maps+...iw=320&bih=416

http://www.veterans.gc.ca/public/pag...eldt_map_e.jpg
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Old 07-13-2013, 03:41 PM   #4
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All great suggestions, Temujin, but none that quite fill the bill. I have a number of coordinates that I found in the SSR war diaries that I need to plot, but I need the accompanying maps to do it.
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Old 07-13-2013, 03:45 PM   #5
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Thanks, Temujin, but sadly, I can't plot coordinates on any of these. I have added to my original post to clarify this. As usual, I appreciate your time and help.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:19 PM   #6
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Default Plotting map co-cordinates for the Scheldt

If the co-ordinates you have are from second world war documents, they are
probably grid references. These are numerals with an even number of digits
for which a larger number of digits means greater accuracy. The first half
of the digits form an easting and the second half a northing. To plot these
you will need topographic maps and these are now difficult to come by. My
own research on this suggests that in Belgium and Holland in 1944 and 1945,
allied forces used an American map series created in 1943, probably from air
photos. They had scales of 1:25000, 1:50000, or higher and you would need
something like these to make meaningful plots. The typical readily available
maps cover too large an area for plotting grid references.
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Old 07-13-2013, 04:50 PM   #7
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Thanks, Temujin, but sadly, I can't plot coordinates on any of these. I have added to my original post to clarify this. As usual, I appreciate your time and help.
Roger, understood. Thought you were just looking for general maps. Co-ordinates in the War Diares, as LMB41 said, will be military grid references and you have to have the correct "map" for the area to use the co-ordinates.

Your going to have to try and find a military (1940's) map to do this. I have one for the Caen area, but not the area you are looking for. But there are "military map" web sites, unfortunately you have to pay for the maps.

I'll have a look for you and see if I can find the specific map of the area of your inquiry and if you can purchase the maps.

It's to bad, that as far as I know, unlike WW1, where McMaster University has a LOT of the WW1 maps on-line that you can use, I haven't found a similar site for WW2 maps, as of yet.

Maybe one of our members may know of a site, or have access to military maps of the area??

I'll have a look

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Old 07-13-2013, 04:55 PM   #8
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Here are some links to WW2 Military maps

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/r...-world-war.htm

This link, gives you multiple links to other map sites

http://wwii-netherlands-escape-lines...military-maps/
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Old 07-13-2013, 05:19 PM   #9
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By the way, I have a PDF copy of Canadian Army Training Pamphlet, No 13, Map Using (1942). If you would like me to send you a pdf copy, let me know by PM and I'll forward to you.

It basically telling you "how to use a military map, read grid references etc"

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Old 07-13-2013, 05:25 PM   #10
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Also, Historical Section Report No 188, has a lot of info, and maps you may wish to see.

Here's a link to the page you can download it, it's the "last" report on the first page, NO 188

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dhh-...-rqgmc-eng.asp

It downloads as a PDF file

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