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Old 02-25-2017, 01:10 AM   #11
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December 28. At 00.38 a British bomber crashed, caught fire and exploded at Thorney Island. All the crew are missing.
All of the following are from 42 Squadron which flew Beauforts and according to Halley's The Squadrons of the Royal Air Force & Commonwealth 1918 - 1988 were based at Thorney Island in 1940, (although it does say they were in Wick from June 1940). These results are the best fit and are the only ones which have an RCAF fit within the time period. It may well be worth checking the Squadrons ORB's.

YOUNG, CHARLES FREDERICK Sergeant 638694 28/12/1940 Royal Air Force United Kingdom Panel 21. RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
BAILLON, MARK RODNEY Flight Lieutenant 37147 28/12/1940 25 Royal Air Force United Kingdom Panel 4. RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
HILL, LAWRENCE STANLEY Pilot Officer J/2823 28/12/1940 26 Royal Canadian Air Force Canadian Panel 27. RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
GOW, JAMES HENRY Pilot Officer 78671 28/12/1940 34 Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve United Kingdom Panel 8. RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL

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Old 02-25-2017, 01:14 AM   #12
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Default Operational Record Books: 42 Squadron

The December 1940 ORB's for 42 Squadron area available here:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ils/r/D8411886

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...ils/r/D8411887

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Old 02-25-2017, 05:59 AM   #13
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Interesting, but we've been looking at Christmas Eve, 1940, per your primary post. Page 22 talks about a crash in December, 1941.

Only one RCAF killed on that date : http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/2719823/
Here is the conflict of dates !
The original newspaper article was for 24/12/40
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/heritage...park-1-6116790
Not a great link and I will endeavour to find the original article.
The young lads diary maybe incorrect. Probably writing this in his later years ? The area of the crash he states is correct
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:58 AM   #14
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Have found 2 airmen that died on this date (24/12/40) Not Canadian. Buried in the Thorney island airbase.
Frank Meddings
Michael Buckbarow.
Dates correct,nationality not
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Old 02-25-2017, 01:17 PM   #15
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The information regarding the crash 28 December, 1940 provided I can now discount: http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...ss-28-Dec-1940

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Old 03-01-2017, 04:42 PM   #16
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Hi all from Portsmouth UK.
On the 24/12/1940 a RCAF Beaufort bomber left Thorney Island Hampshire GB on a mail run to Gibralter. One of the bombers unfortunately lost power and crash landed just after take off. All 4/5 crew members died on impact.
I am interested in trying to find these men with you, but could you please post all of your sources, so we can fact check everything to be sure we are looking at the correct possible answers.

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Old 03-01-2017, 09:36 PM   #17
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I checked out the first ORB and the squadron was at Wick at that time. I've downloaded the ORB if you wish to see it
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:55 PM   #18
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I checked out the first ORB and the squadron was at Wick at that time. I've downloaded the ORB if you wish to see it
I would appreciate that, and I appreciate your downloading the ORB.

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Old 03-02-2017, 04:26 PM   #19
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I know that a lot of this info has already been discussed, but I have reviewed all the Aircraft Serial numbers for Beaufort Aircraft and have pulled out any serial that indicated a Crash on Thorney Island.

I have also looked at aircraft crashes at this time period and pulled out any serial of Bleimhem aircraft that indicated a crash on Thorney Island.


Serial's are listed below:

Bristol Beaufort

L4447
19? The aircraft was ordered for the Royal Air Force (RAF) as L4447.
15 Nov 1939 The aircraft was allocated to 22 Squadron, Royal Air Force. Beaufort L4447, joined 22 Sqn at Thorney Island
08 Jan 1940 The aircraft crashed on take off at Thorney Island, UK.

L9790
19? The aircraft was acquired by the Royal Air Force (RAF) and serialized as L9790.
19? The aircraft was allocated to 22 Squadron.
28 Jun 1941 Beaufort 1, 22 Sq, crashed on take off Thorney Island.

W6470
30 Jul 41 Beaufort I, 22 Sq, crashed on landing Thorney Island





Blenheim

L9043
28 Dec 40 Blenheim IV crashed on take off Thorney Island

V5420
06 Dec 40 Blenheim IV, 53 SQ, crashed on overshoot Thorney Island

N3537
01 Dec 40 Blenheim IV 59 SQ crashed on overshoot Thorney Island


http://www.cnapg.net/bristolbeaufort.htm

http://www.hampshireairfields.co.uk/hancrash.html

http://all-aero.com/index.php?option...ufort&catid=59

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Old 03-02-2017, 09:02 PM   #20
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Blenheim L9043

The Bristol Blenheim: A Complete History

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28-12-1940 L9043 (Mk IV), 53 Squadron: FTR; engines cut on take-off for Lorient at 0630 after long delay on ground, crashed near airfield and bombs exploded; F/Lt J. Richardson, Sgt J. Maguire, and Sgt K. Vowles KIA.
Blenheim V5420

http://www.militarian.com/threads/in...crew-kia.5421/

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Sgt Obs. HS Parrott/53 Sqn/killed in air crash/buried Hants From The Bristol Blenheim by Warner Blenheim V5420 crashed when it overshot landing during heavy rain after air test, Thorney Island. Also killed were P/O S R E Weatherle and Sgt S McAndrew
Blenheim N3537

http://number59squadron.com/roll/cre...en_hinman.html

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Received severe battle damage and hit trees and house on overshoot at Thorney Island . Sgt Jones was slightly injured, Sgt Walden died in the crash and P/O Hinman later died of his injuries.
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